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“You wanted to kind of slip out the backjack. It wasn't…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 48:04

“You wanted to kind of slip out the backjack. It wasn't going to work out. And then those conversations began. And then they asked you if you were thinking about a relicense. And you said, yes, we're thinking about BSL. And then there's probably some more conversations between there. But then they decided to publish…”

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