“is challenging because if you don't pass the bar of…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 51:25
“is challenging because if you don't pass the bar of incubation and graduate and you're not a, I don't know what it means to not graduate. Does that mean you're like not? What does it mean to graduate even? Like what does that mean? I don't get all of it. Does that mean you're not valuable? Does that, I don't…”
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