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“possibly get, you know, from, from what we were really…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 53:22

“possibly get, you know, from, from what we were really trying to do. And again, if you, if you looked at some of these companies and, you know, we talked to other customers of ours, big, big customers and said, Oh, you know, these people that are kind of on the same level of you and the fortune 50, they refuse to…”

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