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“production-level critical service, they actually went, oh…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 54:05

“production-level critical service, they actually went, oh, yeah, we actually kind of like that idea. And so from a part of an ecosystem standpoint, those conversations, we had lots of them because we lost control of the narrative, right? The CNCF wanted to all of a sudden move things into the court of public opinion.…”

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