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“I just think as an ecosystem, we're evolving. Things are…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 57:37

“I just think as an ecosystem, we're evolving. Things are changing. You know, CNCF has changed a lot, you know, that we still need to kind of think through some of these and figure out what do we really want as a global ecosystem around this? And charity is not a business model, right? So the whole notion of, oh, you…”

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