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“At the time, when I was talking to CNCF, they were like…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:11:15

“At the time, when I was talking to CNCF, they were like, well, we own the trademark. I go, well, technically you don't. Now, this will get listeners frustrated and upset. And I get that. And I'm totally empathetic to why you would get upset. And I'm not asking for empathy by any stretch. But I was very frustrated…”

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