“I'm just wanting the dialogue of saying, is that the only…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:27:43
“I'm just wanting the dialogue of saying, is that the only model that we really think will survive? And I don't, I don't want a world that looks like that myself. Yeah. Well, good for you for sticking up, I suppose, for yourself or trying some attempt and having this clarity. I know the narrative hasn't always been…”
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