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“When we started the company AppSera, which was trying to…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 11:28

“When we started the company AppSera, which was trying to do a redo of Cloud Foundry on some of the things I felt I didn't spend enough time and energy on, security, governance, federation, all these different types of things, we rewrote NAT in Go. NAT was originally written in Ruby. That's what Cloud Foundry was…”

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