“No, I think all that's right. I think the State of the…” — Pod Save America at 35:53
“No, I think all that's right. I think the State of the Union is a launching pad. We tend to think of it in the old way. It is a speech as if the entire nation tunes in. The entire nation does not tune in anymore. So it is a run up to it. It is the speech. And then it is what happens afterwards. And it is, it's…”
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