“Yeah, he was the showrunner. And he had come, we hired…” — SmartLess at 37:00
“Yeah, he was the showrunner. And he had come, we hired him. I mean, I met him doing this cartoon called Life in Times of Tim. Oh, yeah. That ended up on HBO. That was like, and Giles, that's how I met Giles. Also with Pete Giles. Yeah, that's how I met Giles originally. Sweet Pete Giles. Yeah, and one of the great…”
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