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“So he, and then he, you know, he's gone on to continue to…” — SmartLess at 41:26

“So he, and then he, you know, he's gone on to continue to sort of work in various versions of that business. And he and my brother have a company called K2 now, which continues to do different versions of investigations and risk mitigation and security. And they make skis too. And they make great skis. I know…”

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