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“they're doing it maliciously, that they're like, they want…” — Dwarkesh Podcast at 1:17:03

“they're doing it maliciously, that they're like, they want to scheme, and they know that this one is a trap, and they want to find some other way. And it's like, no, they're just like, oh, I'm in a test environment. Okay. Like, so making an environment that's like realistic enough,”

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