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“stuff like that, birds. But it's kind of easier than cars.…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 35:51

“stuff like that, birds. But it's kind of easier than cars. Yeah, generally, and so it's a different problem. So it's easier. There's easier. It's a little bit of both. It kind of depends on how you're looking at it with cars. And like we were just talking to Waymo again, a few weeks ago,”

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