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“there are a lot of challenges and you have the notion of…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 36:15

“there are a lot of challenges and you have the notion of the, you know, the child running out or the ball bouncing out. And there's a lot of stuff that's right there. But also you're, you know, how you're navigating is very well defined in terms of the streets and stuff like that. Error becomes more”

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