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“It's not the only one. There are many and some of them are…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:24:58

“It's not the only one. There are many and some of them are closed and some of them are open. But there's tons of books now on Ross. And so I often, when people are interested in this and they're like, but how do you do you do like aside from the swarm, I can't even make a single robot”

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