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“Yeah. And it's not just catching up on that and learning.…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:35:32

“Yeah. And it's not just catching up on that and learning. There was a certain like ramp like I had to level up, but then it was also the it starts getting your imagination going like you didn't like you knew in the back of your mind, you could do this, but now you're like, you're living it. And then”

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