“is founders and people who are also optimists about this…” — Acquired at 1:10:24
“is founders and people who are also optimists about this whole industry. There's a viable audience of people who are pessimists out there and who don't like it. And that's what the other media outlets can write for and too. But it's like, nobody was doing what you're doing. The other piece of it too is like, you…”
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