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“I think the biggest thing on their minds at the moment…” — CyberWire Daily at 13:26

“I think the biggest thing on their minds at the moment that's really been a consistent theme, Dave, is they have challenges orienting on the problem. And what I mean by that is, you know, they're trying to decide, is this a patching speed problem? Is this a shift from patching to mitigations? Is this a detection…”

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