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“The whole Durban Amendment thing, which is routing…” — Cato Audio at 47:50

“The whole Durban Amendment thing, which is routing requirements and rate caps, or interchange rate caps, rather, swipe fees, you know, the merchants pay. The whole thing was sold as, yeah, you're going to, you know, we're going to pass all these savings on to consumers. And that was never true, I would argue, in that…”

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