“how we're going to stabilize the growth in the debt…” — Cato Audio at 1:19:02
“how we're going to stabilize the growth in the debt, whether that looks like getting closer to a balanced budget or primary balance, at least, where you try to balance the budget, excluding interest. That would be a very good start. Or even start with something more modest, like let's not let the debt grow bigger…”
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