“as his brother. So they both use these terms that are, you…” — Sidebar at 6:49
“as his brother. So they both use these terms that are, you know, as if there is a blood tie between them. But maybe like many families, there are disagreements between people who are close. And I think, you know, when you're looking for where there has been the biggest distance between them, it came around 2016 when…”
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