“So I do think that's interesting that, so if Kamala runs…” — Pod Save America at 24:57
“So I do think that's interesting that, so if Kamala runs, if she doesn't run. But if she does run, maybe you're planning your campaign, maybe you're planning it to win, but you're trying to get two or three, is it wrong for people to assume, because this is the conventional wisdom,”
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