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“facing a well-oiled machine that has been lying to people…” — Pod Save America at 37:45

“facing a well-oiled machine that has been lying to people for a long time. And it is getting far worse with social media platforms right now. And like that, to me, that just has to be the beginning of the conversation on what we do. But do you have any ideas? Well, I also want to go back and I want to amend my list…”

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