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“We really went through a range of emotion. But the good…” — The Vergecast at 7:38

“We really went through a range of emotion. But the good news is I came out with something and it worked so I'm proud. Hey, Hayden, my attitude toward these chapas has really evolved in past month where like two months ago, I was like, I'm going to be really polite because these things are made in a bizarre way”

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