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“it would also be wrong to just try to put them back the…” — Pod Save America at 6:38

“it would also be wrong to just try to put them back the way they were in 2024. If we got a magic wand, we're suddenly in charge of everything. We'd be responsible for building institutions actually made sense in the 2020s. And the reason I think this is related to the other part of your question is actually, I think…”

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