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“You know the big totem poles that you see? Well, the…” — Rudy Rucker Podcasts at 53:31

“You know the big totem poles that you see? Well, the Native Americans only started making those after they got axes and steel saws. Before that, they made things like that, but they were like the size of your hand. They were made of this very hard black stone, and they'd ship these little godheads and things and…”

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