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“When I was laid off there, they said, well, you can keep…” — Rudy Rucker Podcasts at 52:53

“When I was laid off there, they said, well, you can keep this on the real one. And then I got a company called The Way Group to publish it. So there's a book and some software. All of the software, you can download it from my webpage. You can go to rudyrucker.com and you can find a way to find it.”

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