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“Let's see. And let's go up here to the slideshow. And so…” — Rudy Rucker Podcasts at 8:14

“Let's see. And let's go up here to the slideshow. And so that's me playing with, there's this man called Stephen Wolfram. I don't know if you've heard about him. He wrote Mathematica. He's sort of, he's an unusual person in computer science. A lot of people don't like him. He's very arrogant. He's been very…”

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