“that this media tour is about Joe Biden. It's not about…” — Pod Save America at 51:49
“that this media tour is about Joe Biden. It's not about Donald Trump. It's about Joe Biden defending himself and his legacy. It's not about, which I wouldn't recommend this, but it's not about using the platform a former president may have to criticize a sitting president to try to shift the public debate in some way…”
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