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“I was really surprised he said that to you. It was sort of…” — 48 Hours at 20:14

“I was really surprised he said that to you. It was sort of a humanizing moment for a defense attorney. I agree. I was surprised, too. You were in the room with me, and I don't know if this was your impression as this was unfolding. I felt like Val was waiting for me to give him permission to say those things, that he…”

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