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“Ultimately, they didn't let us in there. Wow. But he…” — 48 Hours at 3:57

“Ultimately, they didn't let us in there. Wow. But he wanted to talk on camera. He was ready. Did he express regret? Not to me. And I always find some people, they just want to talk because they also realize we're the last gasp of the real world from the horrible confinement in prison. And we're a relief to them. They…”

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