“It's the same. There's rhetorical weight placed on his…” — Sidebar at 17:31
“It's the same. There's rhetorical weight placed on his pushing for Congress to make it happen. And when you ask White House officials, who is Biden talking to? Is he pressing senators who are on the fence on some of these things? Is he bringing it up? They don't get into a huge amount of what Biden may be doing…”
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