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“So those are things that Biden still is hoping to…” — Sidebar at 10:49

“So those are things that Biden still is hoping to accomplish. But so far, he hasn't. So I think the $1.9 trillion was a big down payment and a big indication of where he wants to head. But a lot of that stuff is temporary to sort of get people back on their feet, not to help them sustain them for the long term. And…”

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