“It's a hard question because I don't, honestly, I don't…” — Pod Save America at 1:25:22
“It's a hard question because I don't, honestly, I don't focus on it that much. I mean, you know, and just being totally honest, I remember when I ran for governor, we ran against, there was like 11 other people running for governor. We had statewide elected officials. We had two Obama cabinet secretaries. We had a…”
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