“it matters less. The retail matters less and actually the…” — Pod Save America at 36:18
“it matters less. The retail matters less and actually the state matters less. And so I'm toying with this. I haven't come to a conclusion about this myself, but it is not the same as it was, certainly not in 1972. And I would say even in 2008 when Barack Obama was president. And that means that we should at least be…”
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