“This is why it's a puzzle that's like not as easy as like…” — Pod Save America at 40:31
“This is why it's a puzzle that's like not as easy as like just just a formula or just as easy as picking, you know, the states that are most racially or otherwise diverse. Yeah, it's not easy. And look, one of the biggest challenges to previous efforts at reform is political inertia. As you know very well, like…”
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