“Well, here's the thing. So in the PlayStation 2, they…” — Pod Save America at 53:40
“Well, here's the thing. So in the PlayStation 2, they added a second set of triggers, and that really alienated a lot of people, and we lost them forever. These controllers today with these kids, there's too many buttons on the controller. Use like all five fingers. Use ten fingers. I'm telling you. How about that…”
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