“It's a ton of lies and bullshit and self-aggrandizing…” — Pod Save America at 21:17
“It's a ton of lies and bullshit and self-aggrandizing made-up stories. But it's compelling. And he's charming in it. I thought it was not compelling. He was not good. He's meandering. He was meandering. And not even because of all the frames about Trump. It's not the bigotry and lies from the rally. It wasn't that.…”
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