“Right. Just like choking and floundering and being out of…” — SmartLess at 33:42
“Right. Just like choking and floundering and being out of control and all the things that if I succeed at, they'll see me as a master of like, you know, the moment and like chaos and power or whatever. Not that I see that, but I think that would be the other side of it. Not that I think I'm like the master of chaos.…”
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