“That, like, now he's gotten serious with this person. I…” — The Toast at 42:47
“That, like, now he's gotten serious with this person. I don't feel like he has, like, a camp. Like, I don't think he plays into it. That's sort of his thing. That's why he's super controversial and, you know, kind of disliked in some circles. Not his camp. Because he's this sort of renegade. Not his people, but it…”
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