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“Yeah, I'm like wow This is what it feels it to go down the…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 45:02

“Yeah, I'm like wow This is what it feels it to go down the wrong road and not be pissed and still be kind of happy because you learned so much along the way Yeah, it's kind of cool and then later on people combined say well why didn't you just use Z standard?”

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