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“There are many podcasts about health care policy that…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 38:42

“There are many podcasts about health care policy that people can go listen to. But it feels like for this show in this context in 2025, we have to talk about the other relief valve that appears to exist, which is Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, was shot on the street in New York City. Luigi Mangione is…”

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