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“That feels like, OK, it's time to pull the ripcord and…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 39:26

“That feels like, OK, it's time to pull the ripcord and maybe actually think about the outcomes here. It's such an interesting question. What I understand to have been the main reaction in health care circles to that shooting was, you know, let's get more security. Let's make sure these people are better protected…”

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