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“You do a fake meeting for the press. Then you do a real…” — Pod Save America at 32:07

“You do a fake meeting for the press. Then you do a real meeting. They never did the real meeting in this case. They just did the fake meeting for three and a half hours. Yeah. Even the real meeting is not like, I mean. It's kind of fake. It's kind of fake, right? But we were on the outside. We were definitely on the…”

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