“but it was a continuation of what the DNC had been. I know…” — Pod Save America at 55:34
“but it was a continuation of what the DNC had been. I know he's trying to make changes, but like after 2024, you probably needed someone who's going to come in a little bit like Howard Dean did when he won the DNC, who's going to like knock it over and start from the beginning. And so we're kind of making, we're not…”
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