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“an image of the party that has learned anything from the…” — Pod Save America at 56:36

“an image of the party that has learned anything from the last defeat. Right. I think that's the bigger thing is you can't expect the DNC to solve the problem. You can't expect them at the August 2025 annual summer meeting, I guess it is, to have like figured everything else out. But there was probably a way to be a…”

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