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“I mean, me, to be fair. Okay, so this is all just dumb…” — The Vergecast at 1:13:04

“I mean, me, to be fair. Okay, so this is all just dumb, right? This is just pure posturing left and right. If Apple had an ounce of self-respect, it would tell the government, in this case, like, go away. Yeah. What I'm worried about is Apple no longer has an ounce of self-respect. And so what I've been thinking…”

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