“Yeah. Like, it is straightforwardly a news program. It is…” — The Vergecast at 1:21:21
“Yeah. Like, it is straightforwardly a news program. It is run by the news division at ABC. You can think it's a bad news program. You can think it's a news program that prioritizes nonsensical debate and conflict over actual news. But it is a news program. That is a thing that it is meant to do. You could think that.…”
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