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“What do we want to call them? Just in the mid-room. No, it…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 46:21

“What do we want to call them? Just in the mid-room. No, it was, you know, like they did everything, including... That's right, that's sword fighting. Cockfighting. So we're all the cocks hanging out. Roosters. So these events attracted sometimes as many as 2,000 people. Again, since Willie was friends with him…”

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