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“But they're good on the second degree. So a second degree…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 1:37:52

“But they're good on the second degree. So a second degree murder conviction carries a punishment of a life sentence with no possibility of parole for a period between 10 and 25 years to be set by the trial judge. On December 11, 2007, after reading 18 victim impact statements, British Columbia Supreme Court Judge…”

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